Scripture Roundtable 163: Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Lesson 19, None Could Deliver Them but the Lord

This is Scripture Roundtable 163 from The Interpreter Foundation, in which we discuss the Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Lesson #19, None Could Deliver Them but the Lord, focusing on scriptures in Mosiah 18-24, bringing in various insights to help us better understand the scriptures. These roundtables will generally follow the 2016 Gospel Doctrine schedule of scriptures, a few weeks ahead of time.

Panelists for this roundtable are Steven Densley, McKay White, Martin Tanner, and Daniel Peterson.

This roundtable is also available as an audio podcast, and will be included in the podcast feed. You can listen by pressing the play button or download the podcast below:


4 thoughts on “Scripture Roundtable 163: Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Lesson 19, None Could Deliver Them but the Lord

  1. Just wanted to thank you for these interesting and informative videos. I teach primary and these videos give me some of what I would be missing in Sunday School…(plus, much more in some areas)

  2. I like the discussion on agency that Steve Densley brought up, referencing Terryl Givens, on how agency is defeated when there are no consequences for sin.
    It reminds me of a quote from Brigham Young from JD 13:274 where Brigham is talking about how unworkable Satan’s plan is:

    “If you undertake to save all, you must save them in unrighteousness and corruption. You will be the man that will say to the thief on the cross, to the murderer on the gallows, and to him who has killed his father, mother, brothers, and sisters and little ones, ‘Now, if you will say, I repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, or on the Savior of the world, you shall be saved.’” This is what all the religious sects of the day are saying now, but Jesus did not say any such thing.”

    I think this quote explains Satan’s plan much better than the idea of forcing all to do good. We are saved from our sins, not in our sins.
    This may be the reason the temple drama pre 90’s included a preacher teaching Evangelical doctrine. Because it can be so damning, eternal progression is the complete opposite.

  3. I have been listening to these roundtables for a couple of years and find them to be of great worth. Thank you for doing them.

    Recently I have been wondering why so many followed Lucifer in his rebellion. I believe that when the plan was set forth it was done so in great detail. Those who rebelled were those who saw that the chance of failure to attain the highest was high and decided that they weren’t going to submit to mortality and all that entails without a guarantee of success (they suffered a failure of courage and thus failure of faith). Lucifer offered them a guarantee or at least a plausible twist that appeared to give them a very high probability of success. Lucifer was no doubt a very eloquent and erudite fellow and flattered and obfuscated enough to convince a large portion of us to go with him. I am pretty sure that the removal of consequences (or a significant reduction of their effect) would be at the heart of this.

    It also follows that (assuming I read scripture correctly) those who showed courage, faith and love of our Father and opted to submit to the plan are all (with the exception of a tiny number who decide to join Lucifer’s rebellion) going to receive some degree of reward in a kingdom of “glory” after suffering consequences for unrepented sin. The very fact that anyone is here at all indicates that person’s right choice will not go unnoticed. In a sense anyone who comes here is a hero.

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